Interview With God




Monkey's Uncle
Fun With Atheism Issue, Fall/Winter 1985
Editor: E.T. Babinski


Reporter: Why Evolution?


God: Because I wanted man to discover the immensity of my creativity throughout time as well as in space. I wanted man to stand far enough back in space and time, in order to view my majestic artwork properly. You must admit, a 6000 year old creation with the earth in the middle of it would only give man an enormous ego -- having all of space and time revolving around him! Instead, he has finally woken to the fact that he must seek a deeper center to space and time, not a superficial one. I also wanted to show man, via evolution, that I could do anything -making man out of an amoeba!


Reporter: Rather like the trick of turning black, crumbling coal into...diamond!


God: Exactly! And man, like diamond, is also made of billion year old carbon! Besides, I could have used any number of substances, hidden up my sleeves, to form man out of 'nothing'. But, out of an amoeba? That's what I call a trick!


Reporter: So do I! But what about the dinosaurs?


God: I wanted you to find their bones and tremble in awe. All that you find is my gift, to induce awe, surprise, even laughter. Take penguins for instance! Look for all the things you can in my cosmos. It is the grandest easter egg hunt ever! and don't forget to hunt for me too! I am the divine Fox! Hunt, and always be prepared to be... surprised!


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Anti-Reductionists' Collections of Sayings

Anti-Reductionist Collection of Quotes




Monkey's Uncle
Fun With Atheism Issue, Fall/Winter 1985
Editor: E.T. Babinski


WHAT IS REDUCTIONISM?
It is merely the old trick of making things absurd by reducing them to their lowest terms. It is trying to explain away the music of Kreisler as a mere scraping of cats' entrails with horsehair. Or explaining away a handwritten Shakespearean sonnet as mere ink-worms scrawled on train-track flattened tree guts.




"Words placed in a random order would obey the laws of vocabulary but not those of syntax. If the words were rearranged in a proper syntactical order, the laws of vocabulary would not be annulled but a new and higher principle or order would also come to expression. Each higher level relies on the principles of action in the next lower one -- there could be no syntax without vocabulary and phonology -- but the higher level cannot be derived from, reduced to, or accounted for by the lower. Thus each level in a text is given its meaning by the next higher level. But what is the meaning beyond the text that gives meaning to the whole text?
-- from Via's Kerygma and Comedy in the New Testament


MAN IS ONLY AN INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE (since he obtains energy by 'burning' carbohydrates via a simple oxidation/reduction reaction) "Dr. Frankl's junior high school science teacher used to walk up and down the class explaining to his pupils that life in its final analysis is nothing but combustion, an oxidation process. The boy Frankl at once jumped to his feet and said, 'Dr Fritz, if this is true, what meaning then does life have?' Now imagine what it means that thousands and thousands of young students are exposed to indoctrination along such lines, are taught a reductionist concept of man and a reductionist view of life."--from Ayala's (ed.)
Studies in the Philosophy of Biology


THE ORGANISM IS ONLY DNA'S WAY OF MAKING MORE DNA. THE HUMAN MIND IS A DEVICE FOR SURVIVAL AND REPRODUCTION, AND REASON IS JUST ONE OF ITS VARIOUS TECHNIQUES. 'BELIEFS' ARE REALLY ENABLING MECHANISMS FOR SURVIVAL . . . THUS DOES IDEOLOGY BOW TO ITS HIDDEN MASTERS THE GENES--from E.O.Wilson's Sociobiology, and On Human Nature
Contra Wilson, notice that "the eye is, in an important sense, a device for informed movement and so for survival. But this does not mean that it can serve no other purpose. Constable and Rembrandt used it for all sorts of other ends and it would be mere confusion to suggest that these ends were somehow unreal, or that they were illicit and ought to be abandoned. Again, play no doubt has a function. It has been developed among human beings, as it has among the young of other intelligent species and sometimes among adults too, for evolutionary reasons which presumably have something to do both the satisfactory working of the higher faculties, with the need for practice in developing them, and with the sort of social interactions needed in a society which is much freer and less mechanical than those of the insects. It seems sensible to say that this tendency evolved because it has some value in promoting survival--that is, as a result of its having that value. But to say 'then it is only a means to survival' would miss the point entirely. What evolved was not only a tendency to act in certain ways, but a capacity for delighting in certain things, and thereby of taking them as ends. The ends of art and sport are now our ends. They are not delusions, nor provisional and superficial forms of the real end, survival. And the end of reason, similarly, is not survival, nor reproduction, but consistency and truth. People, even childless people, can die for these things. There is nothing confused in their doing so."--from Mary Midgley's Heart and Mind (St. Martin's Press)


"In an elemental sense, the egg only exists to produce the chicken. But the chicken does not exist only in order to produce another egg. He may also exist to amuse himself, to praise God, and even to suggest ideas to a French dramatist. Being a conscious life, he is, or may be, valuable in himself." --from G.K. Chesterton's What's Wrong with the World? (Dodd, Mead & Co.)


"The motivation of living creatures does got boil down to any single basic force, not even an 'instinct of self-preservation.' It is a complex pattern of separate elements, balanced roughly in the constitution of the species, but always liable to need adjusting. Creatures really have divergent and conflicting desires. Their distinct motives are not (usually) wishes for survival or for means to survival, but for various particular things to be done and obtained while surviving. And these can always conflict."--from Mary Midgley's Beast and Man (Cornel Univ Press) "In the last analysis most common things will be found to be highly complicated. Some men of science do indeed get over the difficulty by dealing only with the easy part of it: thus, they will call first love the instinct of sex, and the awe of death the instinct of self-preservation. But this is only getting over the difficulty of describing peacock green by calling it blue. There is blue in it. That there is a strong physical element in both romance and the Memento Mori makes them if possible more baffling than if they had been wholly intellectual. No man could say exactly how much his sexuality was colored by a clean love of beauty, or by the mere boyish itch for irrevocable adventures, like running away to sea. No man could say how far his animal dread of the end was mixed up with mystical traditions touching morals and religion. It is exactly because these things are animal, but not quite animal, that the dance of all the difficulties begins. The materialists analyze the easy part, deny the hard part and go home to their tea."--from G.K. Chesterton's What's Wrong with the World? (Dodd, Mead and Co.)


ANOTHER REDUCTIONIST ERROR IS TO BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE DISCOVERED THE EMBRYONIC FORM OF A PHENOMENON YOU HAVE ALSO DISCOVERED AN 'EXPLANATION' OF IT. AS IF THE ACORN 'EXPLAINS' THE OAK TREE!


"I was sitting under a tree with a great biologist. Suddenly he exclaimed, 'I would like to know something about this tree!' He, of course, knew everything that science had to say about it. I asked him what he meant. And he answered, 'I want to know what this tree means for itself. I want to understand the life of this tree. It is so strange, so unapproachable.'"--from Paul Tillich's The Shaking of the Foundations. "Science has raised the possibility that there are as many different consciousnesses in the world as there are organisms capable of perception. It also has raised the possibility that consciousness may arise in ways that seem very alien to us. The symbiotic superconsciousness I vaguely sense in forests is not outside scientific possibility... Instead of myths peopled with talking trees, we must begin to create the opposite... Instead of inflating our human consciousness to fill trees, we must let the trees into our minds. We are very different from trees, but we are also like them. As we learn how they live, we learn a great deal of how we live."
-- David Rains Wallace's The Klamath Knot (Sierra Club Book)


WE ARE, EACH OF US, AN ISLAND UNIVERSE IN A SEA OF SPACE
-Aldous Huxley


On the other hand, "Nothing that exists is an island unto itself...everything that holds membership in the world is an element of a seamless garment--the 'ragged edges' of every individual reality splay off into those of another, and the world is a wedding"
--Nathan Scott



TO AN ASTRONOMER, MAN IS NOTHING BUT AN INFINITESIMAL DOT IN AN INFINITE UNIVERSE.
"An interesting point of view," remarked the bishop, "but you seem to forget that your infinitesimal dot of a man is still the astronomer."--from The Wit and Wisdom of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen (Prentice-Hall)



THAT ALL THE MATTER OF THE COSMOS, GATHERED TOGETHER, COULD BE CONTAINED IN A DIE; THAT ON THIS LITTLE EARTH HANGING IN THE VOID WE ARE BUT FURTIVE AGGREGATES OF DUSTY STATISTICAL CLOUDS; THAT ACCORDING TO SCIENCE AND ITS TRUTH ALL IS VOID IN THE DIMENSIONS OF THE UNIVERSE (MILLIONS OF LIGHT-YEARS IN SPACE, BILLIONS OF TERRESTRIAL YEARS IN TIME) . . .


Obviously, the miracle is that there are forms! That there are consistency, landscapes, faces. . . and that vacuity could have given birth to the plenitude of bodies, that light should have become vision, energy emotion, structure myth, and gravitation desire -- from Denis de Rougemon's Love Declared "A strange mystery it is that nature, omnipotent but blind, in the revolutions of her secular hurryings through the abysses of space, has brought forth at last a child, subject still to her power, but gifted with sight, with knowledge of good and evil, with the capacity of judging all the works of his unthinking mother"
-- from Bertrand's Russell's "A Free Man's Worship"



"Music at its highest, as in Bach or Mozart, is pure play. . . The intricate melodies flow on and on, and there never seems any necessity from them to stop. Bach and Mozart composed them in tremendous quantities, with the same Godlike extravagance to be found in the unnecessary vastness of nature. . . in countless suns blazing away so many billion kilowatts of energy; vacant planets spinning in profusion; flowers blooming in their myriads in impenetrable jungles; weeds, insects, fish, birds, micro-organisms swarming upon the earth . . . Returning to the human arena, this may be compared to the long Alleluias of Gregorian chant, the endless arabesques of Persian miniatures, the illuminated margins of medieval manuscripts, the wind-swept bamboos of Chinese painting, and the entirely satisfying and purposeless figures of the dance as it may sometimes be seen in Russian ballet. Such playfulness is the very nature of the divine Wisdom. . . Indeed, every attempt to find plan and purpose and respectable rationality in this universe, whether on a supernatural or a merely naturalistic basis, is bound to end in absurdity, and of the two the naturalistic explanations are the more absurd. Perhaps the song of birds is 'explainable' simply as a device for sexual attraction; perhaps the radiant wings of insects are no more than protective coloring; perhaps the beauty of the morning-glory is merely to entice the bee, appealing no doubt to his acute aesthetic appreciation of color and form. Perhaps. But if the aim of so much splendor is merely to stimulate the sexual processes of purely instinctual organisms, the mountain has labored and brought forth a mouse.


"The trouble is that we are too proud to be children and appreciate the playing of God...


For there is so much tragedy on the surface of life that were there not somewhere, right in the center of things and in the center of each and every pain, a state of absolute and unconfined joy accessible to all, the whole realm of Being must be damned."
--from Alan Watts' Behold the Spirit (Random House Inc.)


"The problem of darkness does not exist for a man gazing at the stars. No doubt the darkness is there, fundamental, pervasive, and unconquerable except at the pin-points where the stars twinkle; but the problem is not why there is such darkness, but what is the light that breaks through it so remarkably; and granting this light, why we have eyes to see it and hearts to be gladdened by it"
-- from Santayana "Plotinus and the Nature of Evil"


"It is consciousness running around like a dog with its tongue out -- literally cynicism -- that asks the too simple question and shapes up the vulgar answer. To be conscious of the nature of the sacred or of the nature of beauty is the folly of reductionism"
--from Gregory Bateson's Mind and Nature

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Postcard from Nietzsche




Monkey's Uncle
Fun With Atheism Issue, Fall/Winter 1985
Editor: E.T. Babinski


(The following 'creation account' was found on the back of a postcard little Friedrich Nietzsche mailed his Dad from a summer camp in Switzerland, after having just been tossed off the Alps, as a prank, by the bully who slept in the bunk below him.)


Dear Dad:


IN THE BEGINNING...
..the earth was formless and void, and darkness was on the face of the deep. Naturally, the Spirit of God had holes, huge ones, in his hiking boots from treading on the void for so long, whilst he kicked a can...
...OVER THE SURFACE OF THE WATERS.
Many eons of darkness passed till one day (or was it night?) his foot missed the can and he mumbled, "Boy, I wish there was a little...light."
Instantly, THERE WAS LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enough LIGHT to fill the shadowy gap between each and every pair of soon-to-be-created misplaced front teeth in the cosmos! Enough LIGHT to make darkness take a taxi to Edison, New Jersy, and attempt to strangle Thomas Alva Edison in his sleep! Enough LIGHT to fill Times Square, Tokyo, and Tolula Bankhead's cranium!
"Holy Shit!" God exclaimed, blinking in surprise, "the word I said... suddenly became a thing!" Whereupon God bit his tongue crushingly. For knowing he was God, he also knew it was impossible for him to go back on his word.
Meanwhile, God peered glumly at all the holy...shitty things he'd just created.


Please, PLEASE let me come home before another holy shitty thing happens to me at camp!


Your loving son, Freddie

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Atheist Musings



Monkey's Uncle
Fun With Atheism Issue, Fall/Winter 1985
Editor: E.T. Babinski


 


Atheist Father To Son: "Son, life is a swirling eddy of despair, lit briefly by false hopes and shattered dreams, and ending in eternal oblivious..."
Son: "I guess that means I won't be getting the 10-speed I want for my birthday?"





Money
Nietzsche

ODE TO MS. MADELINE O' HAIR


What is she really after?
An atheism free of Laughter?
Why not accept... "In God We Trust,"
And use those bills to buy Nietzsche's Bust!




DOGMA
It is abundantly evident that belief in God is often destructively dogmatic. Is the problem then that humans tend to believe in God, or is the problem that humans tend to be dogmatic? Anyone who has known a died-in-the-wool atheist will know that such an individual can be as dogmatic about unbelief as any believer can be about belief. Is it belief in God we need to get rid of, or is it dogmatism?
--M. Scott Peck, from The Road Less Traveled




Four Major Views On How God Interacts With The Universe!

  1. God does not play dice with the Universe-- Albert Einstein's View
  2. God does play dice with the Universe; He even throws them where they cannot be seen, and randomly switches dots on each die after it stops rolling.--Quantum Mechanical View
  3. God plays dice with the universe rather well. In fact, he's probably a professional gambler.-- Theistic Evolution's View.
  4. God does not play dict with the Universe. He play darts with it.-- John Slader's View (He's a prominent Sci-Fi Writer).



WHAT IS EVOLUTION?


Herbert Spencer, a contemporary of Darwin, defined evolution as "an integration of matter and concomitant dissipation of motion, during which the matter passes from an indefinite incoherent homogeneity to a definite coherent heterogeneity."


However, William James. the famous Harvard psychologist, remained unimpressed, and chose to delight his students with the mocking parody, "Evolution is a change from a nohowish untalkaboutable all-alikeness to a somehowish and in general talkaboutable not-all-alikeness by continuous sticktogetherations and something elseifications."




The Wrong Word
We were talking of the Universe at tea, and one of our company declared that he at least was entirely without illusions. He had long since faced the fact that Nature had no sympathy with our hopes and fears, and was icily indifferent to our fate. The Universe, he said, was a great meaningless machine; Man, with his reason and moral judgements, was the product of blind forces, which, though they would so soon destroy him, he must yet despise. To endure this tragedy of our fate with passionless despair, never to wince or bow the head, to confront the hostile powers with high disdain, to fix with eyes of scorn the Gorgon face of Destiny, to stand on the brink of the abyss, clenching his fist at the death-pale stars-this, he said, was his attitude, and it produced as you can imagine, a powerful impression on the company. As for me, I was carried away completely.


'By Jove, that is a stunt!' I cried.


From ALL TRIVIA by Logan Pearsall Smith, ©1945 by Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc.; renewed 1973 by John Russell. Reprinted by permission of the publisher.

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Matter or Music?




Monkey's Uncle
Fun With Atheism Issue, Fall/Winter 1985
Editor: E.T. Babinski


The earth naturally oscillates to two 'notes,' one with a vibration period of 53.1 minutes, the other of 54.7 minutes. They are about 20 octaves lower in pitch than the tones we know and therefore, unless transposed, resemble silent, periodic earthquakes. It was the violent Chilean earthquake of 1960 that provided the first clearly "heard" ringing of Earth, when scientists excitedly observed that volume of the oscillations from each blow of the Andean "clapper" of the Pacific "bell" diminished by almost half every two days.


Now if the song of a planet is pitched 20 octaves below man's hearing, the song sung a complementary 20 octaves above it, leaving us musically midway between the trebles and basses of the cosmos.


It also seems like the 'smallest indivisible particles of matter' may be actual 'nodes of resonance!' Some physicists are even hopeful that the dynamic school of physical research (which mostly studies what happens when such sub-atomic particles collide) and the theoretical school (which mostly tries to categorize the same particles relative to their presumed least common denominator, the 'quark') will harmonize their disciplines through acceptance of something called "exotic resonance" (because it transcends quark harmonics) .--excerpted from The Seven Mysteries of Life: An Exploration in Science and Philosophy by Guy Murchie. Published by Houghton Miffin Company, Boston. © 1978 by Guy Murchie.


Radio waves carried by the solar wind are filled with whistles, hisses and pops. While those from Saturn's magnetosphere resemble whines and hissing clicks. (When played through a music synthesizer at higher speed the signals can be made to produce a slow, dreamy melody.) Even the sun is a "great musical instrument" ringing like a gong, according to Dr. Martin Pomerantz, of the Bartol Research Foundation. Studying the sun's surface, scientists observed oscillations that they believe arise from acoustic waves inside the sun. Dr. Pomerantz says that 80 overtones (different ways that the sun vibrates) with periods of two to eight minutes have been identified. --from Discovery magazine, a brief insert titled: "Cosmic Song."

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Atoms and Materialism



Monkey's Uncle
Fun With Atheism Issue, Fall/Winter 1985
Editor: E.T. Babinski



WHAT IS EVERYTHING? If everything is matter, then what is "matter?"


Physicists no longer define "matter" as indivisible bits of particular size, weight and position. They don't even say that matter is "made of" bodies called atoms, protons, electrons, and so on. The word atom or electron is now used as part of an overall descriptive observation that has no meaning except as used by people who know the experiments by which it is revealed. "In field theory, instead of having matter sitting out in space like lumps, you concentrate on the way things interact. The relationships of matter and energy and time are what's determinant. Nothing is static, everything is dependent on and defined by the movements of everything else. The field is not so much a place where all this happens, but a conjunction, the interaction itself. As if the universe is recreating itself, moment by moment" (from Disturbances in the Field, a novel by Lynne Sharon Schwartz).


    Modern physics also teaches
  1. That a certain particle is able to pass, in its undivided state, through two different holes at the same time.
  2. There are large 'holes in the sky' into which time and space not only disappear but in which they actually cease to be.
  3. And that the term 'quark' describes a particle of which the essential property when three of them combine, their collective weight is less than that of any one of them by itself; although nothing has been lost by their conjunction.
  4. Of course the apparent 'solidity' of 'matter' does not exist on the atomic scale, wherein all things are in constant and rapid motion.
  5. Lastly, note the book review.

Thus, modern physics focuses more on the configuration of the cosmos, rather than on proving its solidity or materiality!


But doesn't this mean that the philosophy known as "materialism" is a bit more difficult to believe in today, than during the machine-minded 19th century? Back then, the cosmos was pictured as a giant watch. But today it is picture as a vast flowing 'field' of space/time/matter/energy.


So today, the heart of 'matter' is thought to resemble 'brain waves' more closely than 'billiard balls!'


Secondly, there has always existed the philosophical objection to materialism that, since we only know "matter" through our senses, and our senses only detect the outer sensations of things, then how do we know what the essence of "matter" really is? "Belief in 'matter' is thus a faith in the unseeable--in the famous 'pincushion hidden by innumerable pins' which Coleridge uses as the perfect analogue of Matter hiding behind sensible phenomena" (Jaque Barzun in his book, Darwin, Marx, and Wagner).


Theory of Light and Matter


  • QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter by Richard P. Feynman (Paperback - Oct 1, 1988)
  • QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter (Princeton Science Library) by Richard P. Feynman and A. Zee (Paperback - April 4, 2006)
  • Feynman Lectures On Physics (3 Volume Set) by Richard Phillips Feynman (Paperback - Jun 1970)
  • Feynman's Thesis: A New Approach to Quantum Theory by Laurie M. Brown and Richard Phillips Feynman (Hardcover - Aug 30, 2005)
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    Atheists' Club

    Atheists' Club




    Monkey's Uncle
    Fun With Atheism Issue, Fall/Winter 1985
    Editor: E.T. Babinski


    (Scene: A small, smoke filled back room in a little pub in Hackensack, New Jersey, filled with too much talk.)


    "To Order! To Order!" Chairman Angersol shouted above the seething sea of chaos that was...the Atheist's Club.


    "To hell with ORDER!" spake Will Tu Power Zarathinski.


    "Yeah, let's only allow for an instant of synchroneous silence if its number comes up in the Monte Carlo games," seconded Jack Monad.


    "Shut up, I said, GOD dammit!"


    Everyone did, and stared at Angersol with expressions of malevolence and wonder on their faces.


    Angersol continued, "Soooo, there is something to be said for God after all. He's obviously claimed your attention!" (General laughter bumbled around the room, blindly.)


    Then Angersol announced, "As we agreed last week, tonight is 'problem of evil' night..."


    "And my problem, night after night, is that I can't get enough of it" Mark E. Desade yodled.


    "Really, let's get serious, men. We've got a job to do. God is an intolerable brute, and this is his funeral, so let's get to burying him!" Whereupon, Angersol clicked his mug with his neighbors', downed it, and earnestly began "God, you see, cannot be both God and All Powerful, or everything would be all powerfully good. But obviously it's not!"


    It's snot! It's snot!" the club repeated seriously for a full half minute till and eruption of suppressed laughter caused beer to suddenly squirt out of a few members nostrils, like they were the models for some obscene Greek fountains.


    It was then that a peculiar sound summoned the group's sobriety. It was a loud "PSSSSST." First, everyone thought only to stare at the person seated beside themselves. But the origin of the sound remained elusive. "PSSSST." They stared down the hall leading to their meeting room; a few opened windows and peered out. "PSSST. PSSST, PSSST." It was then that everyone motioned toward Angersol's left hand pocket, for that was where the sound was unmistakably emanating from.


    "Uh?" Angersol said, as he slowly reached down into his left hand pocket and withdrew its contents, setting them on the table before the club: a Gideon's New Testament with all the biblical contradictions underlined (by Angersol), a sweaty handerkerchief, and a matchbox. "PSSSSSSSSST," went the matchbook, and everyone stood up in their seats, some standing upon them, to gain a better view. With both hands steadied to keep them from trembling, Angersol opened the matchbox. He looked in and tipped it over. A few matches fell out, nothing more. It was empty. Everyone could see it was empty. Air possessed all the space within that miniscule matchbox. Then the emptiness within that little matchbox... spoke. "You were expecting maybe a pillar of fire? It's me, God. Lord, Creator of the Universe. All Creation, thanking me, breaks bread, drinks wine, and toasts J.C."


    "Oh, good joke, Angersol. Where's the micro-speakers?" asked Ripley B. Leavitt Knott.


    Angersol didn't reply.


    Others pressed him for an explanation.


    Angersol stood firm.


    The matchbox answered, "Look guys, a few of you were blitzed a moment ago. Now you're sober. Go ahead, walk a few straight lines, touch your noses. I sobered you up, so you could ask questions and hear me reply. This is a golden opportunity I'm granting you boys. You may believe anything you want about who or what's talking to you. That's not the point. I don't need your belief, I'm God. I just want a little of your attention."


    At this point Angersol, the matchbox's owner, and presumably the man who knew the most about what the hell was happening, sat calmly down. Everyone could sense hiscerebral caverns filling with blood, swelling to engage the matchbox in intellectual combat. Everyone else politely refrained further comment, allowing the chairman first crack at the attack.


    "My dear little deluded matchbox, or whomever is on the receiving end of this micro-circuit, I have a question to which I unhesitatingly demand an answer. It is the question raised this evening, the gravest question of them all, and the one which shall bury you. What about evil, my friend? Whence comes it? And, Why?"


    "Evil? Whew. I thought you were going to ask me a toughie, like, how I created something out of 'nothing,' about which I'm sure I'd never be able to explain. Not in understandable terms, anyway.


    "Well, 'evil' is sort of like the side of me that likes to take risks. Like Zarathinski's always saying, man's glory is in seeking to overcome himself, to walk the tightrope between himself and the overman. But that's part of my glory too! To seek to outdo, or overdo myself! It was a risk, it was a challenge, but I eventually put so much of myself into my work that I came up with little co-creators. Don't you guys enjoy taking risks? The vigor of mountainclimbing, car racing, fastball pitching, football tackling: conducting experiments. And don't forget all the games you enjoy playing, which purposely involve more risks than real life is apt to contain!


    "If I was to remove all the challenge, risk and responsibility from your lives, you would be driven crazy by irresponsibility. Like if I changed all knives to rubber as soon as an assassin flung one. Or reversed the law of gravity just because an individual was about to take a fall? Or made flying fists sail harmlessly through the body of each person being socked? And while we're on the subject of fantasies, how about if I supplied you with endless food, drink, all gourmet, and magnified your sexual enjoyment one hundred fold? Would you like that too? Or would you become omnibored? Untalking, irresponsible slaves to perpetual pleasure? By the way, I tried such a plan out once with the angels, and not everyone found such a 'Utopia' to their liking. So, guys, why not admit I'm right? Captain Kirk, going someplace boldly, and risking all, even just in movies, is more appealing. I know it, and you know it."


    "Yes, but what about the crucifixion?" Mark E. Desade gloated aloud, "Why not admit that you're into S & M. You love it!"


    "I'm no masochist, Desade. I shared the cosmos' pain that it might be fully born and alive. For the price of responsibility and self knowledge happens to be pain. This is not to say that all pain will automatically bring one to a greater self knowledge, as you imply. It won't. However, the cosmos is still such a part of me that I like with its painful growth as a whole, from Jesus' suffering on the cross to the pain of every sparrow that falls."


    "Yet the sparrow still falls!" Mark Twayne shouted, standing on a chair in the rear of the room.


    "Yes, it does, Mark, and you'll understand more about why, after you've fallen. Till then, this is a purposely risky cosmos."


    Mark, exulting in his precarious perch began to hop up and down upon his seat, "O.K., so this cosmos isn't hell, but we're not living in heaven either."


    "I never said you were, Mark. For all you know a comet could collide with this planet and wipe out life at any time. That would not be the most satisfying way to end our friendly evening together, but you must admit, death is not a dull moment. Likewise, one reason life is thrilling is that it ends in unexpected ways."


    Mark lost his balance and landed on the table before him nose first. He wanted to say "God dammit!" but was so caught up in the unexpected nature of the fall itself that he calmly and quizzically accepted the whole thing, even the pain.


    "But what about pain?" Angersol demanded. "Do we really need it in every case? You seemed to say 'no' to that question a little while ago. Obviously a deformed infant suffers to no purpose. Yet you are the ultimate creator of such suffering! That is, if you are the 'God' to whom I am speaking."


    "I agree with you, Angersol, that was the hardest part of deciding to create this cosmos. But, if I'd created an easy, irresponsible one, would you have given a damn about each other or any 'infant' at all? You'd be mute slaves of irresponsibility with no need to responsibly interract, since I'd be taking care of everything for you.


    "Please keep in mind that I'm not a Pantheist. I do not teach that the world ought to be full of horrors, since so it is. That view is often embraced by tender-hearted people to spare themselves the distress of admitting that anything is horrible after all."


    "Rather, I struggled within myself over whether or not to create this cosmos, and decided that it would be irresponsible of me to
    create a lesser one. Therefore, I risked putting my all into it.


    "All I ask in return is that you fight with me, my little co-creators. For in learning how to overcome is a lesson greater than the pain, and greater than the evil implied in all the risks. If you do not try to see beyond the evil but succumb to it, then you lose your humanity, disgrace yourselves, and I die an evil ogre in your eyes. But whenever you overcome evil and pain, you shine brightly in the eyes of both man and God."


    "Yes, but what real risk did you take? That's something you haven't made completely clear." Angersol inquired.


    "I live in and through you, as long as you never accept the 'necessity' of evil, as long as you continue to ask what the 'problem' of evil is. For I live in the asking, the highest desire for good that is found in your heart."


    A mighty wind blew the matchbox shut, and with the sound of a match being struck, tiny flames began dancing upon the heads of all those present.


    "Remember , I am not far. In me you live, move, and have your being, and... vis versa."


    The next day, Ripley B. Leavitt Knott examined the six-sided paper object in his laboratory with the aid of all the scientific instruments at his disposal. After a few hours he grew discouraged and decided to slice the box up into pieces only several microns thick, and gaze at them beneath an electron microscope. After a few weeks he totalled the exact number of atoms which had previously composed the empty box. But his thorough examination left no final remains of anything for which he'd been searching.



    THE END

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